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Matt Karash
Carolina Hurricanes
Joined: 09.27.2005

Jun 22 @ 8:19 PM ET
Matt Karash: Wow - Thunder Bay south
wbon22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jun 22 @ 8:26 PM ET
A really good hockey move and the 'Canes get that much better.
caniac11
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: United States, NC
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 22 @ 8:28 PM ET
I think Carolina by far and away lost this deal. I mean come on -

Jordan is great but giving up Sutter (who is Jordan Staal minus the goals), Dumoulin (who played so great at the end of the season after BC was out) and the first round pick this year....

oh yeah - and Jordan has only one year on his contract and has Carolina over a barrel when it comes to negotiating.

Jim Rutherford has generally made good trades (minus Anson Carter) but this was highway robbery by Pitt. (especially if they get Parise too)

I am just shocked!!
_Zippy_
New Jersey Devils
Location: Threw one in front blocked the, NJ
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jun 22 @ 8:34 PM ET
I think Carolina by far and away lost this deal. I mean come on -

Jordan is great but giving up Sutter (who is Jordan Staal minus the goals), Dumoulin (who played so great at the end of the season after BC was out) and the first round pick this year....

oh yeah - and Jordan has only one year on his contract and has Carolina over a barrel when it comes to negotiating.

Jim Rutherford has generally made good trades (minus Anson Carter) but this was highway robbery by Pitt. (especially if they get Parise too)

I am just shocked!!

- caniac11


Think this also locks E Staal in Carolina and can potentially get them Mark Staal, tht cannot be ignored.
thisisderrik
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.01.2006

Jun 22 @ 8:35 PM ET
Last blog was posted over a month ago... sad it takes a staal trade for canes fans to actually get a blog.
Matt Karash
Carolina Hurricanes
Joined: 09.27.2005

Jun 22 @ 8:36 PM ET
Last blog was posted over a month ago... sad it takes a staal trade for canes fans to actually get a blog.

- thisisderrik


Been incredibly busy at work derrik...Thanks for stopping by.
BWithering
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 02.17.2008

Jun 22 @ 8:37 PM ET
Eric sometimes needs motivation. If this doesn't motivate him to compete at his highest level, nothing will. I'm excited. Go Canes!
s0rcerer1984
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, VA
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jun 22 @ 8:46 PM ET
Sad to lose Jordan Staal, but hope he does well in Carolina. You got yourselves a quality player.

Can any of you give me any info. on Brian Dumoulin? I know a bit about Sutter, but nothing about Dumoulin.

Also, is Sutter a C or W? I've seen him listed as both and wasn't sure which was his natural role.
acdc1206
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Fire Sullivan, PA
Joined: 06.13.2007

Jun 22 @ 8:48 PM ET
Best of luck to Staal in Carolina. You got a hell of a player who should really flourish there.
akane13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: raleigh
Joined: 01.24.2008

Jun 22 @ 8:53 PM ET
Hard to imagine JR made this move if that elephant wasn't addressed. Staal will undoubtedly be here in Raleigh long term. And he will dominate in his role as a 1-2 center. He played with pylons in Pitt (Cooke and Kennedy). If he had legitimate linemates there his numbers would have been bigger.

Good move for both clubs and props to JR for making the big move.
housemd18
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: NC
Joined: 06.06.2010

Jun 22 @ 9:11 PM ET
Sad to lose Jordan Staal, but hope he does well in Carolina. You got yourselves a quality player.

Can any of you give me any info. on Brian Dumoulin? I know a bit about Sutter, but nothing about Dumoulin.

Also, is Sutter a C or W? I've seen him listed as both and wasn't sure which was his natural role.

- s0rcerer1984


I'm not sure about Dumoulin but Sutter is a C. He'll be an excellent 3rd line C for you guys. He can play extremely well in all situations. He's going to missed but J. Staal was probably worth trading him away.
housemd18
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: NC
Joined: 06.06.2010

Jun 22 @ 9:12 PM ET
Sad to lose Jordan Staal, but hope he does well in Carolina. You got yourselves a quality player.

Can any of you give me any info. on Brian Dumoulin? I know a bit about Sutter, but nothing about Dumoulin.

Also, is Sutter a C or W? I've seen him listed as both and wasn't sure which was his natural role.

- s0rcerer1984


I'm not sure about Dumoulin but Sutter is a C. He'll be an excellent 3rd line C for you guys. He can play extremely well in all situations. He's going to missed but J. Staal was probably worth trading him away.
caniac11
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: United States, NC
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 22 @ 9:15 PM ET
Sad to lose Jordan Staal, but hope he does well in Carolina. You got yourselves a quality player.

Can any of you give me any info. on Brian Dumoulin? I know a bit about Sutter, but nothing about Dumoulin.

Also, is Sutter a C or W? I've seen him listed as both and wasn't sure which was his natural role.

- s0rcerer1984


Dumoulin played for BC and is 6'4", 210 lbs. He played with Carolina in the NHL after BC was eliminated this year - 3-5 games I think. he played great and will be a force - maybe even this year.

You guys won this deal for sure.

If you just had gotten the 8th pick this year and Sutter, it would have been much more even.
caniac11
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: United States, NC
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 22 @ 9:17 PM ET
Sad to lose Jordan Staal, but hope he does well in Carolina. You got yourselves a quality player.

Can any of you give me any info. on Brian Dumoulin? I know a bit about Sutter, but nothing about Dumoulin.

Also, is Sutter a C or W? I've seen him listed as both and wasn't sure which was his natural role.

- s0rcerer1984


Also check out - http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=7432

Dumoulin is a stud.
nickgregory
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jun 22 @ 9:17 PM ET
I am not sure how it is clear cut the pens won this deal...today, Staal > Sutter...and I love sutter...the other two are prospects...a 50-50 shot...

good trade, and one that today Canes win...they get a guy who can play top line minutes...Sutter is a fantastic 2/3 center, but Staal is a top line guy.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jun 22 @ 9:45 PM ET
I am not sure how it is clear cut the pens won this deal...today, Staal > Sutter...and I love sutter...the other two are prospects...a 50-50 shot...

good trade, and one that today Canes win...they get a guy who can play top line minutes...Sutter is a fantastic 2/3 center, but Staal is a top line guy.

- nickgregory


I think youre going to be disappointed if you think Staal is a top line guy

take a look at 2010-2011, when Malkin and Crosby were out and Staal was a "Top Line Guy"

Wasn't exactly producing in bunches...
nickgregory
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jun 22 @ 9:53 PM ET
I think youre going to be disappointed if you think Staal is a top line guy

take a look at 2010-2011, when Malkin and Crosby were out and Staal was a "Top Line Guy"

Wasn't exactly producing in bunches...

- TheGame316


he also didnt have guys like E. Staal or skinner on his wing...apples to oranges...
ikyan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Kingston, ON
Joined: 01.19.2012

Jun 22 @ 10:16 PM ET
Good trade for both sides. Pens don't lose Staal for nothing and get a decent return. Hurricanes get a powerful two way centre. Plus, how long is it now until Marc joins his brothers?
akane13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: raleigh
Joined: 01.24.2008

Jun 22 @ 10:27 PM ET
I think youre going to be disappointed if you think Staal is a top line guy

take a look at 2010-2011, when Malkin and Crosby were out and Staal was a "Top Line Guy"

Wasn't exactly producing in bunches...

- TheGame316



He was playing with Mark Letestu. Even Mario couldn't make Mark Letestu productive.
jjr_1988
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 08.18.2011

Jun 22 @ 10:37 PM ET
i have to agree that the cane's got the bad end of this deal. why give away so much for a player that they could have just signed next off season? do they really need him this year? What was the point if he would've just come over anyway?
twistedwrister9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Zach Bogosian as Hitman: Agent 47, NY
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 22 @ 10:45 PM ET
Congrats on a great trade landing Staal!





P.S.......I hate you and am really jealous, would've loved me some Staal.
twistedwrister9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Zach Bogosian as Hitman: Agent 47, NY
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 22 @ 10:47 PM ET
...only one more to go, you really should put together an offer and try to pry Marc away from the Rags.

Has Jared played any games for the big club yet? Will he, or his he an AHL lifer?
twistedwrister9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Zach Bogosian as Hitman: Agent 47, NY
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 22 @ 10:49 PM ET
i have to agree that the cane's got the bad end of this deal. why give away so much for a player that they could have just signed next off season? do they really need him this year? What was the point if he would've just come over anyway?
- jjr_1988


...looking at it this way your kinda right, should've used suttee as the chip to help pry Marc out of NY. And yen surely Jordan would've followed after the season as a UFA, would've had them all.
ward30nhl
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: 52 West
Joined: 01.04.2007

Jun 22 @ 11:09 PM ET
Dumoulin played for BC and is 6'4", 210 lbs. He played with Carolina in the NHL after BC was eliminated this year - 3-5 games I think. he played great and will be a force - maybe even this year.

You guys won this deal for sure.

If you just had gotten the 8th pick this year and Sutter, it would have been much more even.

- caniac11


Dumoulin never played in the NHL. He was with Charlotte at the end of their season, but didn't play there either.
hauger14
New York Rangers
Location: Fairfield, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2009

Jun 22 @ 11:41 PM ET
very surprised to hear talks were going well between Pens and Rangers until Canes threw in a 3rd factor. As for Marc going over, relax we have him for 3 more years!!! LOL...but I think they will eventually all be together. They seem like a ight knit family and they have 3/4's of them already. How is Jordan progressing?? Don't hear much of him. We goina see him soon? Would be great to see all 4 of em on the ice when the Canes and Rangers play haha
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